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Flea Run


The Hidalgo Trading Company is only one of a great number of sites dedicated to remembering Doc Savage and encouraging a new generation of fans. Choosing any of these sites will open a new browser window for you.
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17 May 02



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The Fabulous Five


Catherine Lavallée's
LA PAGE EN FRANÇAIS
POUR DOC SAVAGE EN FRANÇAIS

It's a great site for French fans of Doc Savage. Want more reasons? She's witty, intelligent, beautiful and she is my wife.


Chris Kalb's
the 86th floor
This is what happens when you have talent and a great imagination. Parents...encourage your children to draw on the walls!


Rob Smalley's
Doc Savage - The Supreme Adventurer
From little acorns grow...This is one of the niceest guys in fandom and he has one of the more comprehensive sites.


Ron Hill's
The Adventure of the Azure Aztec
The original artistic inspiration for the HTC, but don't hold that against him. A hilarious strip.


Thomas Rau's
Das ist Doc Savage
I owe this guy. I'm still trying to figure what I can send him. Anyone have a copy of The Man of Bronze dubbed in German?



Voices on the Radio


The Cobalt Club
Doc Savage Radio Episodes in MP3

Jerry Haendige's
Vintage Radio Logs -- Doc Savage Page


Doc in the Comics


Bill Mann's
Doc Savage Comic Book Scans

Gary Chaloner's
Red Kelso

Dave Schneider's
The Doc Savage Comics Resource Page


The Animated Doc


Micah's
Doc Savage: The Animated Adventures

New Location
Ron Hill's
The Adventure of the Azure Aztec

Kez Wilson's
Duc Savage
MISSING!
Victor and Anthony Aranjo
Pat Savage


The Babylon Doc


Catherine Lavallée's
LA PAGE EN FRANÇAIS POUR
DOC SAVAGE EN FRANÇAIS


Thomas Rau's
Das ist Doc Savage

Alain Berguerand's
L'Homme de Bronze


Doc Fan Fiction & More


A New Doc Savage Novel!
Doc Savage 2000

M. D. Jackson and G. W. Thomas's
Savage: The Bronze Journal

Mark Eidemiller's
Bronze Refinded as Silver

Larry Widen's
Arch Enemy of Evil

Will Murray
The latest Kenneth Robeson

Len Yacullo's
Doc Savage Reader Resource

Syracuse University Library Street and Smith's
Preservation Project
MISSING!


Doc at the Cons


Cat Jaster's
Frozencat Pulpcon Page



More Doc on the Web


Mark Butler's
All About Doc Savage

Scott Cranford's
The Doc Savage FAQ Page

Dale Dodson's
Doc Savage Page

Jim Gould's
Doc Savage Collectible Showcase


Bob Jenson's
This is Doc Savage Country


Mark Lambert's
Hidalgo Publishing Company

David Pettus and Curtis Peters present:
Bronze Recollections

Jim & Julie Rhodes
Doc Savage on the Computer Garden

New
ricjac's
Savage Land


Rocketman's
Doc Savage: Man of Bronze


Jeff Sines's
Doc Savage Unchained


???????'s
Monk's Footlocker
MISSING!


Just a Little Bit of Doc


Jerry Sutton's
Fortress of Solitude

William Thompson's
Doc Savage Page

Tomi Vaisala's
Doc Savage Home Page


The Missing Sites


Gone... docsavage33's
Doc Humor Page


And Now for Something
Completely Different



Gary Chaloner's
Chaloner Ink
Comics Noir for the Neo Literate
new address


Joe Baloney's
Harry Slothe is on the case.


Nick Pollotta's
Delphia Book Company
has closed for health reason...We're wishing the best for Nick.

Dave Kalb's
Avenger Archives
Avenger Archives - Paperback Annex
The Mike and Ike of Avenger pages! Dave Kalb has created an exciting and welcome addition to pulp fan sites. Everything you ever wanted to know about The Avenger is here.


ThePulp.Net


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Playing 20 Questions

In 1998 CG Welch asked a few Doc Savage website designers 20 questions...this is what they had to say...

Rob Smalley
Website designer for Doc Savage - The Supreme Adventurer

I'm a 39 year old guy who grew up in southern California (San Fernando Valley). I went to college at Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo where I got a degree in engineering, concentrating in air conditioning & refrigeration. I took a job in Arizona in 1981 after graduation. I've been here ever since. I live in Chandler, which is a suburb of Phoenix.

I work for University Mechanical & Engineering Contractors. I spent 12 years as a construction site mechanical engineer and project manager. The largest project I managed was the Phoenix Suns basketball arena, which was completed several years ago. I am now the chief mechanical estimator for the same company in Arizona. I am responsible for preparing design-build budget proposals and plan & specification cost estimates for bids on new construction of air conditioning, plumbing and process piping systems for large commercial & industrial facilities.

I'm married. My wife’s name is Debbie. We have one teenage girl.

I first met Doc Savage and his five remarkable aids in early 1971. I was 12 years old and in the 7th grade. Until that point, I was reading the Berkley paperback series of Sherlock Holmes adventures. Although I did not know it, I was priming myself for reading series-type adventures. Doc came into my life through a fellow named Gary Stevenson. This kid was absolutely high on Doc Savage. His enthusiasm was contagious and I just had to have some. After seeing his collection, I began to prowl the bookstores.

The first newly released book I can remember seeing in the stores was The Munitions Master (March 1971). I immediately bought it as well as The Golden Peril, The Giggling Ghosts, and Poison Island. It was difficult, but I finally decided that The Golden Peril would be my first. With it I walked straight into an exciting world of adventure and brotherhood. I was to travel the globe with Doc and his men, and with them become life-long friends.

I read every new Doc Savage book as they came out, until the end of 1976. Then college reading took over. I continued collecting the books, although I read only a few in the years to 1984. By that time my career was taking off and my enthusiasm for Doc had waned. No doubt aided by the slow publication rate. Sometime in 1984 I stopped actively searching the bookstores for new books. My collection was boxed-up and remained that way. But this was not the end.

In January 1996 I discovered the Internet Fans Of Bronze (IFOB) and like a man who had been resuscitated, my enthusiasm for Doc was given new life.

Thanks to the IFOB and the alt.fan.doc-savage newsgroup, I have become a part of a world-wide fellowship of those who, like myself, "belong" to Doc. My Doc Savage book collection is now complete, and I am working toward completing the pulp set.

In early 1996 I began reading the adventures again, sampling some of my old favorites. In late 1996 I began re-reading the series in original pulp order. I am now on The Fantastic Island, the 34th story. I’ve been averaging an adventure about every two weeks, and enjoying it immensely. I have little desire to read anything else. The only other authors I’ve found that hold my attention for continued reading are Raymond Chandler and Ross MacDonald, and I have read most of their works. Incidentally, I think Ross MacDonald would have written some great Doc Savage stories. I have a complete set of The Avenger series paperbacks, but have not read one in 20 years. I guess in my mind, since there is so little free time it is hard to settle for 2nd best.

I cannot speak for others but, in all honesty, I believe that the reasons why the character of Doc Savage is so attractive to me are as follows;

1.) Doc is everything I wish I was.

That pretty much sums it up. Doc has herculean strength, a genius mind, ruggedly handsome looks, wealth, courage, a charitable heart, an honorable soul, and an adventurer’s spirit. Doc shows us what is the best in all of us, and what we need to make better in ourselves.

Being as close to Doc Savage as I have been, one cannot help become aware of the whole pulp genre and period. Over the years I have accumulated several books about the pulps. These books have inspired my interest and curiosity regarding those treasures of American popular culture. It wasn’t until last year that I had personal contact with a "pulp". I had known about them for decades, but I had never seen one, much less actually owned one myself.

Now I own quite a few. They are among my most cherished possessions. Currently, I am only interested in completing the Doc Savage pulps series. Later, who knows.

Through the medium of the Internet, I have found the alt.pulp newsgroup and subsequently learned of the annual convention, PulpCon. My wife, Debbie and I are planning to make what I hope will be the first of many trips. I am looking forward to meeting, face to face, so many of my new friends of the "Brotherhood Of Bronze".

As I mentioned, in 1996 I went on-line. My ISP at the time was AOL. As some of you may know, they offer a feature whereby one can generate their own personal homepage. I started tinkering with this and was able to create a very rudimentary website. I was needing a purpose for my new homepage, a focus for my efforts to teach myself HTML programming. . This is where the Doc Savage - The Supreme Adventurer website began. Needing to leave AOL for greener pastures I was required to buy a browser software package. Netscape Communicator looked desirable so I bought a copy and have been very happy with its Netscape Page Composer program. My Doc website has evolved slowly with occasional rapid eruptions of growth. Unfortunately, I am not able to devote the time to it that it deserves. It could be so much better.

Thanks to Jeff Sines we now have a Doc Savage webring. After Jeff, I hold the small honor of being the first to jump on. Jeff initiated this project and worked solidly for an entire weekend to get the ring to operate. That Sunday evening, it came to life. Jeff is to be commended for this most valuable contribution to Doc fans.

Doc Savage websites vary greatly in their essence and character. As far as I’m concerned, any Doc Savage website is cool. Some take a magazine format, others an information directory format and others merely express fan appreciation. I wanted my site to offer to the visitor the experience of having fallen into Doc’s world. To me Doc Savage is as much a place as it is a character. Therefore, I have tried to offer content that will cause the visitor to be awed by Doc’s world. It is my hope that having experienced something that exciting, they will want a greater and more personal experience with Doc and his remarkable men. Achieving this with pictures and text is quite a challenge though.

Since I don’t seem to be able to ignore this subject I will only say this: Many fans speculate and dream of the best acting cast for wishful Doc Savage movies and TV shows. For some reason that I am unable to identify, this line of thought does not interest me the way it does so many others.

I strongly believe that the Internet is the best place to present the true flavor of Doc’s world. In my opinion, there is no substitute for Lester Dent’s written words and style for conveying the essence of Doc Savage. For this reason, I have used the material from the stories throughout my website.

The future of my site is such- as I read through the Docs in order I am dictating details of the characters, events and places into a small tape recorder. I plan to transcribe these tidbits to my website in a manner that will hopefully be interesting and exciting. It is my hope that by adding more detailed content to the individual pages, the world of Doc Savage will be better realized. As you can imagine, this will be a long evolution.

As far as what is next for me-
  • Continue to learn and work hard at my job.
  • Enjoy PulpCon with Debbie .
  • Improve my Doc Savage website content.
  • Work at completing my Doc Savage pulp set.
  • Teach myself how to program in Java.
  • Do some astronomical observing with my telescope.
  • Continue to read the Doc Savage adventures in original order.
  • and maybe play a little golf.



Cat Jaster
Website designer for Frozencat


1) Tell us about your life off the web...what sort of work do you do? what part of the world is home? Family? etc?
President-Pulp Adventures, Inc. Small press publisher. New Jersey. 1 brother 1 sister

2) How did you discover Doc Savage?
stole The Devil's Playground from my brother's room

3) What drew you to continue reading the novels?
Different characters at different times. Sometimes Monk and Ham-sometimes Johnny

4) What other kinds of fiction were you reading at the time?
Mysteries, SF, Fantasy, Textbooks, Encyclopedias, History

5) Do you still read the novels? How often? Have you read them all?
yes. one a month or more. nope.

6) What else do you read now?
too many SPIDER novels, ha ha! Mags: Analog-F&SF-SFA-SFWAB-Asimov's-Reader's Digest-Bronze Gazette-CBG Books: Silverberg-McCaffrey-KSRobinson-Asimov-

7) Did reading Doc Savage novels lead you to other pulp characters (or vice- versa)?
Yes and no-Doc led me to the Doc Newsgroup which led me to the pulp NG which by eavesdropping I learned of other characters

8) What do you think attracts people to Doc Savage?
The variety and goodness

9) What novelist would have written a great Doc Savage novel?
Norvell Page

10) What does a 30s/40s pulp semi-super hero have to say to a generation raised with government distrust, global unrest and general malaise? (or is this a diatribe masqurading as a question?)
The same thing any cartoon hero has to say-think of the right!

11) What madness brought you to the role as a Doc Savage website designer?
Peer pressure

12) Who is your audience?
Anyone who will see it

13) What do you hope to accomplish with your website? What do want people to take away after visiting your website? Make it easy for people to find the Doc/Pulp places & people on the net

14) Do you visit the other Doc Savage websites? Ever get a chance to talk to the other website designers?
yes-I like seeing what is new. The others helped me by teaching me how to do html.

15) What's next for your website?
Emphasis on the Female pulp characters-especially Pat. Keeping the Pulpcon site updated. More pulp art. More fun. Maybe add more links.

16) Have you or will you attend Pulpcon? If you've been...what did you like best? What would you like to see?
Yes & YES!!!! I liked the fact that everyone there reads!!!!

17) What would like to see next for Doc Savage?
animated series

18) What's next for you "in real life"?
Horseback riding lessons. Publishing some goodies this year for pulps fans (other than the SPIDER)

19) If you were casting the movie today...?
I would shoot myself. It can't be done in live-action today. Unless...it was like the Phantom

20) If "The Adventures of Doc Savage" was a syndicated TV series...what cast member(s) would you drop to save costs?
The elevator operators and extras. Co-op with another period show to save $ on
props. Film it in Austrailia.


CG-Very sneaky! This was fun!
Meow,
Cat



Len Yacullo
Website designer for Doc Savage Reader Resource

1. I live in Clinton Twp, NJ. Single, 31, and am Director of Camp and Child Care Programs at Hunterdon County YMCA


2. I really can't remember how I came to read the novels first, but I know my father read some of the Bantams when they first came out in the 60's. I know I was about 12 or 13 when I first bought Docs. I probably picked up my first in a used book store.


3. I am a completist by nature and of course wanted to have the full set. I also do not buy a book without reading it and as all of you know, once you read one Doc, it is never enough.


4. Mostly science fiction and fantasy.


5. Yes, I definately still read the novels. I recently started to read them in pulp order and am up to Fear Cay. I don't read them reguarly, but when I do I'll read two or three in a row and then put the adventures aside for another few weeks.


6. What else don't I read now...non-fiction (especially history and science), Dickens & Trollope, Stephen King, Harlan Ellison, Nero Wolfe mysteries, science fiction (especially Asimov & Brin), fantasy (Kurtz, Feist, McCaffrey, Zimmer-Bradley), Tom Clancy, etc. etc.


7. I haven't read any other pulp heroes.


8. First of all, the covers attract people to even look at the books. I'm sure the fact that they are numbered also help attract people--lots of people love series. Once they begin to read, the nostalgia, the imagination and the action keep them coming back for more.


9. I think Isaac Asimov would have done great things with Doc and especially his gadgets. (Could Doc have built the first Asimov style robot?)


10. Firstly, service - Doc could have done anything and has an endless supply of gold and yet he and the Five still choose to help others. That is something rare in today's "heroes" and different enough that today's youth could actually take notice.


Ron Hill
Website designer for
The Illustrated Doc Savage Home Page



1) Tell us about your life off the web...what sort of work do you do? what part of the world is home? Family? etc?

Live in Cleveland, work as a cartoonist/illustrator/caricaturist, maried with 3 kids.


2) How did you discover Doc Savage?

Saw him glaring off paperback shelf in an Ann Arbor bookstore; I was actually looking for the latest Star Trek collection by James Blish...I was 13. Started mail-ordering direct from Bantam soon after that...


3) What drew you to continue reading the novels?

The action...and as I said, I was 13.


4) What other kinds of fiction were you reading at the time?

Start Trek, Ray Bradbury, Jules Verne, HG Wells...just starting SF and Fantasy and Pulp stuff...soon led to Avenger & Shadow & Sherlock Holmes & Tolkien & Lovecraft & Asimov & Niven &...should I stop now?


5) Do you still read the novels? How often? Have you read them all?

I read about ten or so a year. To be honest I have never read all of them, and am taking my time working through the Omnibuses (Omnibi?) and an occasional single...I think I've read Polar Treasure and The Monsters the most...


6) What else do you read now?

Classic Fantasy...recently collected many old Ballantine Adult Fantasy books (Lovecraft, Dunsany, CA Smith, Mervin Peake) and contmporary hard-boiled detective novels (Parker's Spenser and Burke's Robicheaux and Crais' Elvis Cole) and Stephen King. Even went through a Louis L'Amour and Destroyer rampage recently...


7) Did reading Doc Savage novels lead you to other pulp characters (or vice- versa)?

Yes, Doc was first. Then Avenger, Shadow, Fu Manchu, James Bond, Tarzan (then Burroughs' Mars stories), Robert E Howard (though not a big Conan fan), never got into The Spider...does Dirk Pitt count as a pulp hero?


8) What do you think attracts people to Doc Savage?

The adventure (and the covers). But the adventure (and the humor) and the bigger than life aspect of the characters.


9) What novelist would have written a great Doc Savage novel?

Clive Cussler (I think he did in his Dirk Pitt series as a contemporary Doc saga). Dashiell Hammet, or I think Robert Howard would have given an eerie feel to an adventure...


10) What does a 30s/40s pulp semi-super hero have to say to a generation raised with government distrust, global unrest and general malaise? (or is this a diatribe masqurading as a question?)

Not much, honestly. I think you would have to look at the Destroyer for that answer. But I saw AIR FORCE ONE last night, and perhaps Harrison Ford's president character's attitude about "it's the right thing to do" in a cynical government setting would be the closest thing to Doc's attitude in a while...of course, Ford did play Indiana Jones...


11) What madness brought you to the role as a Doc Savage website designer?

When I got online two years ago and saw what was there, and I am finally doing what I felt was not out there at the time...a Doc parody (about the only legal way to do my version of a Doc comic).


12) Who is your audience?

What audience? Doc Fans and my Pure Baloney followers (only about 75 hits a day at www.Reuben.org/hill).


13) What do you hope to accomplish with your website? What do want people to take away after visiting your website?

Fun. and to come back and see what happens next. Also to build an audience for my comic art (to help in further marketing the Pure Baloney feature).


14) Do you visit the other Doc Savage websites? Ever get a chance to talk to the other website designers?

Yes, some. Besides yourself Cat Jaster, Chris Kalb, Jeff Sines...


15) What's next for your website?

Just to continue doing the Pure Baloney comics 5 times a week. I hope the "Doctor Clark" character will be back, and I am starting a new "hero" feature that will probably be posted by April.


16) Have you or will you attend Pulpcon? If you've been...what did you like best? What would you like to see?

Maybe Sunday, maybe Thursday/Friday. I already have a caricature job scheduled in Cleveland on Saturday, August 1st. I would like to some day.


17) What would like to see next for Doc Savage?

Some more books. Or a certain comic parody...


18) What's next for you "in real life"?

Just to try self-syndicating a comic feature with some other cartoonists. Only vaguely Doc-related.


19) If you were casting the movie today...?

I like others' suggestions of the guy from Broken Arrow. and physical resemblance to the Five...I was surprised thay couldn't find someone to play Monk in Pal's version that wasn't so fat...or Long Tom was too tall...the others seemed fine.


20) If "The Adventures of Doc Savage" was a syndicated TV series...what cast member(s) would you drop to save costs?

Why drop any one? The pilot could be 2-hours with all Five (plus Pat) and the other 1-hour episodes could feature Doc, Monk, Ham and alternate the others as story called for...like the pulps did, or like, say, ER does, how they feature certain characters more each week (last week Anthony Edwards had 2 lines at the very end and they focused on Noah Wiley's character. I don't think cutting a few character actors is a way to save money; it would be in sets, location, special effects (which would not be on a "star trek" level by any means. More like a police drama each week. If the story was strong, and the acting not camped up, they could do it. But would people watch?


Jerry Sutton
Website designer for Doc Savage Home Page



1) Tell us about your life off the web...what sort of work do you do? what part of the world is home? Family? etc?

I live and work in Jacksonville, FL. I am currently working in the Recruiting Department of a company that sets up netwroks of contractors to do property restoration for Insurance claims. I am set to move into the Information Systems department later this year. Part of my duties include developing and managing the company's internal and (planned) public web site.


2) How did you discover Doc Savage?

I discovered Doc Savage on a book rack in a "Dime Store" I saw copies (of the Bantam editions) for months. They intrigued me until I could no longer resist them, I've never been the same since.


3) What drew you to continue reading the novels?

I guess it was the innocnece and dedication of Doc and his men. It still is compelling in a world where there are few people who are that dedicated.


4) What other kinds of fiction were you reading at the time?

Everything. I am a very avid reader. I was reading Science Fiction and Mystery adventure mostly, but would read other things from time to time as well.


5) Do you still read the novels? How often? Have you read them all?

I will still read on occasionally, unfortunately I have never had the resources or the time to collect and read them all. I continue to pursue that goal, but it is getting harder and harder to find copies of those books I haven't read.


6) What else do you read now?

I still read a lot of things. I don't read as much Science Fiction as I used to. I still read a lot of Mystery and Adventure.


7) Did reading Doc Savage novels lead you to other pulp characters (or vice-versa)?

Reading Doc Savage probably lead me to reading things like The Shadow and The Avenger. Neither of those captuerd my attention the way Doc Savage did.


8) What do you think attracts people to Doc Savage?

I think it is a desire to be a better person, and to have someone who is the ultimate "citizen" to look up to.


9) What novelist would have written a great Doc Savage novel?

I never spent much time thinking of the mechanics of the novels..who wrote them or who should have wrote them.


10) What does a 30s/40s pulp semi-super hero have to say to a generation raised with government distrust, global unrest and general malaise? (or is this a diatribe masqurading as a question?)

I don't think the novels portray any great "golden era" of honesty and trust. I think they protray Doc Savage as a shining light in the darkness. I think we could use that in our own "dark times"


11) What madness brought you to the role as a Doc Savage website designer?

Well years ago when I got into online communications (local Bulletin Boards at the time) I chose Doc Savage as my "nickname" and that sort of leads to all sorts of madness including dedicating pieces of my web space for him. The Bulletin Board I ran for almost 10 years had a heavy Doc Savage influence as well.


12) Who is your audience?

Hopefully those who aren't quite sure who Doc Savage is, and want to learn more.


13) What do you hope to accomplish with your website? What do want people to take away after visiting your website?

Bringing Doc Savage to others. I hope that after people leave my site they understand, if only slightly, my attraction to this character.


14) Do you visit the other Doc Savage websites? Ever get a chance to talk to the other website designers?

I have visited many sites, I have not had a chance to talk with any of the designers.


15) What's next for your website?

Good question. I haven't had much time to dedicate to it lately with everything else going on in my life. I'll have to spend an afternoon working on that.


16) Have you or will you attend Pulpcon? If you've been...what did you like best? What would you like to see?

I have not had the opportunity to attend Pulpcon


17) What would like to see next for Doc Savage?

I would love to see a new Motion Picture. I would love to see some additional novels as well. It's been far too quiet.


18) What's next for you "in real life"?

I am on the verge of being a "professional" web developer. That's kind of exciting for someone who got in to all of this as a "hobby"


19) If you were casting the movie today...?

I always dread these questions. The truth is I care less about the casting and more about the script and the direction. I take a very technical view of movies (strangely completely opposite of my view of printed material where I don't care who wrote it.. haha)


20) If "The Adventures of Doc Savage" was a syndicated TV series...what cast member(s) would you drop to save costs?

The completely unecessary modern character inserted by the bozo executive who thought the show needed someone for the "common" person to identify with. The "tag along" (i.e. the Wonder Twins and the goofy teenagers with their dog from SuperFriends..*gasp*.. now you know what I did with my Saturday mornings.) Seriously the only full time Cast members a Doc Savage TV show would need would be Doc, Monk , and Ham. The others were never there all that often anyway. They could guest star from time to time but wouldn't be needed full time.


Jerry Sutton
Jerrystn@mediaone.net
AKA DocSavag
http://www.jacksonville.net/~jerrystn
"Let me do right to all, and wrong no man."



R. J. Jenson
Website designer for Jenson Artistry



1) Tell us about your life off the web...what sort of work do you do? what part of the world is home? Family? etc?

I work in a photo lab in Spokane, Washington. That's about 300 miles East of Seattle, near the Idaho border. My lovely wife's name is Kari, and I have two daughters--Kayleigh age 7, and Aubrey age 5.

2) How did you discover Doc Savage?

I saw the ads for the Marvel Doc comic in their other comics (more than likely MANTHING, SPIDER-MAN, WEREWOLF BY NIGHT if I recall right...) and had no interest about a dork in a blue vest. I spotted SPOOK HOLE at the Food Basket and picked it up, and the guy on the back didn't look like such a dork. The thought that I could read a REAL book about a super-hero really struck me for some reason, and I begged my mom to buy it for me. The rest, as they say....

3) What drew you to continue reading the novels?

More than likely Dent's style--although I probably didn't realize it at the time. I think I was able to figure out what was going on--the mystery of it, if you will. If it had been a hard read, or more mystery than adventure (say, like a Shadow), I may never have picked up another one. Heck, I was only 11 years old.

4) What other kinds of fiction were you reading at the time?

I'm pretty sure I was reading The Phantom novelizations at the time--some juvenile Lester Del Rey--I liked the 3 slueths stories "presented" by Alfred Hitchcock and some adventure stories about two brothers--can't recall their names, but they had titles like A WHALING ADVENTURE, and AN UNDERSEA ADVENTURE. And probably Tarzan and other Burroughs. Also, comic books.

5) Do you still read the novels? How often? Have you read them all?

I most certainly do, and I think Dent is probably the single biggest influence on my writing style.

6) What else do you read now?

Oh, lots. SF--not as much fantasy as I used to, but my favorite authors are Tim Powers, James P. Blaylock, Larry Niven, David Brin, Harlan Ellison, Raymond Chandler, Sherman Alexie. Some of my favorite books read in the last year are UNDAUNTED COURAGE, COLD MOUNTAIN, THE MAN WHO LISTENS TO HORSES, DESTINY'S ROAD and INDIAN KILLER.

7) Did reading Doc Savage novels lead you to other pulp characters (or vice- versa)?

Sure. The Shadow, The Spider, G-8 and Operator 5. None can hold a candle to a Doc tale as far as I'm concerned--and if I never read another Spider I won't lose any sleep over it. Reading Docs helped me get back and re-read some Burroughs again, plus pick up the likes of Chandler and Hammet.

8) What do you think attracts people to Doc Savage?

Probably right off the covers grab the eye, but if they become a fan, then I would have to say it's the writing that "hooks" them, and a good balance of adventure and mystery. Plus, the characters are way cool.

9) What novelist would have written a great Doc Savage novel?

Heck, I don't know....Niven may write a good one--or the comic writer Peter David could do a good one. I would have liked to see Ross MacDonald do one like he had been asked to, but alas...

10) What does a 30s/40s pulp semi-super hero have to say to a generation raised with government distrust, global unrest and general malaise? (or is this a diatribe masqurading as a question?)

I think a lot of the stories address those very issues. One thing that helped re-print ALL of them was how shyster jokes and governmental red-tape are still applicable to today. Doc is repeatedly mentioned in the stories as being "too good to be true" and a "boy scout". Every age still wants heroes, no matter how jaded, and the good old days never are as good as they are remembered, after all.

11) What madness brought you to the role as a Doc Savage website designer?

Well, it seemed like a good idea at the time.

12) Who is your audience?

Well, my site is more devoted to my artwork and what-not. I'm hoping to play the role of the preacher trying to convert those that stumble in because they wanted to look at my drawings or photography.

13) What do you hope to accomplish with your website? What do want people to take away after visiting your website?

Um, see above I guess. And I hope they at least say, "Well, that wasn't a complete waste of time..."

14) Do you visit the other Doc Savage websites? Ever get a chance to talk to the other website designers?

Sure. I've "known" Chris Kalb before his site went up, and dealt with and chatted with and met Jeff Sines, chatted and "hanged" with FROZENCAT in cyberspace, and Jim Gould is one of my best buddies, to name but a few.

15) What's next for your website?

Just adding new images more or less. I re-did my main page--added an image map. I do plan one re-doing my Fortress of Solitude wallpaper--making it look more "real". That is my next big project I guess. And maybe, just maybe, offering an actual 20 x 30 poster of it to hang above the ol' computer...

16) Have you or will you attend Pulpcon? If you've been...what did you like best? What would you like to see?

I would LOVE to go to Pulpcon, and someday I'll make it.

17) What would like to see next for Doc Savage?

Of course I'd love to see a new movie--a BETTER movie. I know how I want it to be like. But I would settle for the books to be re-printed again or new ones to come out.

18) What's next for you "in real life"?

Well, nothing definate. I'm working on a novel (with others in my head, some started). Still have drawings to draw, models to build, and the computer to mess around with.

19) If you were casting the movie today...?

Hmmm. If the movie could start shooting tomorrow, I guess...Howie Long as Doc (but would want a younger, unknown actor I think). Okay, I'm tired of defending this one, but I KNOW it could work if a LOT of make up were applied: Joe Pesci as Monk--the voice, the attitude, the height. He is pretty solidly built, when you look at him. Pierce Brosnan as Ham. Jeff Goldblum as Johnny. Steve Buscemi as Long Tom, and Clancy Brown as Renny. Ashley Judd as Pat and Daniel Day Lewis as John Sunlight for the sequels of course (and Sunlight had "the face of a poet"--so all of the current "pyscho" actors who's names crop up just don't do it for me). Oh! Salma Hyek as Princess Monja.

20) If "The Adventures of Doc Savage" was a syndicated TV series...what cast member(s) would you drop to save costs?

Well, as in the books, not all of the members were in each of the books, so you could pull it off. But my least favorite aide is probably Long Tom--not that I have anything against him, but Renny is cooler and I'm partial to archaeologists.

Michael Dean
Website designer for Doc Savage Home Page



1) Tell us about your life off the web...what sort of work do you do? what part of the world is home? Family? etc?

I am the production manager for a community newspaper, the Creston Valley Advance. Creston is a small town in British Columbia, Canada, just 20 minutes north of the Idaho Panhandle. I have been working in publication pre-press for over 12 years. I've been working at the Creston Valley Advance for the last 3 years. I have a wonderful wife, Frances and three terriffic kids, Ashleigh, Chantelle and Jillian.

2) How did you discover Doc Savage? When I was 13 years old, I was embarking on a dreaded "family vacation" which involved an immense amount of driving. My Mom gave me some money and sent me into a used book store in Maple Ridge, B.C., and told me to buy some books to read along the way. Amongst the science fiction paperbacks was this amazing paperback - Doc Savage: The Lost World. I devoured it on that trip and have been hooked ever since.

3) What drew you to continue reading the novels? The characters. The adventure was exciting enough, but it's really the characters that have kept me coming back well into adulthood.

4) What other kinds of fiction were you reading at the time? At the time I first discovered Doc I was reading a lot of science fiction; Heinlein's juveniles, Star Trek novels (the very early ones by James Blish), Asimov, Clarke, etc.

5) Do you still read the novels? How often? Have you read them all? I still read the novels. Usually once every couple of months. I've tried reading several at a sitting, but I find I can't savour them one after another. It's kind of like eating too many Ju-jubes at one time. I have not read all of the novels. I still have some elusive editions missing from my collection.

6) What else do you read now? I still read Science Fiction. Gibson, Robinson (Kim Stanley and Spider) I still enjoy Robert E, Howard, Edgar Rice Burroughs, H.P. Lovecraft, etc., but have also, due to my overpriced education, found a taste for Joseph Conrad, D.H Lawrence, The Brontes, Hemingway, etc.

7) Did reading Doc Savage novels lead you to other pulp characters (or vice-versa)? Yes, Doc Savage led me to Edgar Rice Burroughs, Conan, The Shadow.

8) What do you think attracts people to Doc Savage? At first glance (especially if your first glance is at a Bama inspired representation of Doc) the whole thing looks really bizarro. This muscle guy with a wierd pig shave and widow's peak and a ripped shirt... what the heck's this all about? Then as they read I think it's the tone of the adventure and the wild characters that keep people interested.

9) What novelist would have written a great Doc Savage novel? Tom Clancy could probably write a really great "techie" Doc Savage adventure.

10) What does a 30s/40s pulp semi-super hero have to say to a generation raised with government distrust, global unrest and general malaise? (or is this a diatribe masqurading as a question?) I think doc shows to us a strong hero who stands by his convictions. He doesn't moralise, he doesn't have doubts about right and wrong. He sees a problem and he fixes it. He's a straight-up guy. He doesn't have secret vices, he doesn't dissemble (unless he's undercover). I think that that is a male image that is admirable today. Look at the popularity of groups like the Promise Keepers. People want men today to be more like Doc, to have a code and to stick to it. Doc has kind of a Harrison Ford quality as well of quiet determination.

11) What madness brought you to the role as a Doc Savage website designer? I got a web sight and didn't know what to do with it. I posted an article that I had written for a fanzine several years ago and it was the only page on my site that got any comment. It was a sign.

12) Who is your audience? I think it's the guy who's been reading Doc for years and doesn't know that anyone else out there even knows who he is or if anyone else likes Doc as much as he does. The answer I provide is Yes!

13) What do you hope to accomplish with your website? What do want people to take away after visiting your website? I'd like people to know that there are lots of other people like them out there, surfing the net, who like Doc and his adventures. Even if they feel they have to hide their paperback copies of a Doc adventure inside a copy of the Wall Street times. And if you're new to the net, welcome, and yes, there are other Doc fans all over the world, even if everyone else in your home town thinks you're a nut for wasting your time.

14) Do you visit the other Doc Savage websites? Ever get a chance to talk to the other website designers? Yes I do and I have. Before I began I raved to Chris Kalb about his 86th Floor sight and since then I've spoken to alot of other designers and fans all over the net

15) What's next for your website? I hope to post a page of illustrations I've done based on what I feel an animated Doc Savage series might look like.

16) Have you or will you attend Pulpcon? If you've been...what did you like best? What would you like to see? No.

17) What would like to see next for Doc Savage? I'd like to see someone turn him into an adventure series for TV somewhat akin to Xena or Hercules. Done with the right respect for the material (of course) It would be a great show.

18) What's next for you "in real life"? I'm hoping to move to a bigger city (small town living is too wierd for me)

19) If you were casting the movie today...? Call me nuts, but I think Clint Eastwood would kick ass as Doc, even though he is older than the character. I'd rather see Clint than Dolph Lundgren or Arnold Schwarzeneggar. Actually I'd rather see some talented unknowns with a great costume design, art direction and make-up effects.

20) If "The Adventures of Doc Savage" was a syndicated TV series...what cast member(s) would you drop to save costs? If I had to I'd probably drop Long Tom and Johnny, but I wouldn't see why I'd have to. Lots of other series have big casts of regulars (DS9, Babylon 5, E.R.) I think making use of computer generated imagery would be a more effective way to save costs and bring more into the picture. Imagine virtual 30's art deco sets. The art directors could go wild. CGI zepplins, Autogyros, the Hell Diver. It would save on production costs and end up looking a lot better.



CG Welch
Website designer for Hidalgo Trading Company



1) Tell us about your life off the web...what sort of work do you do? what part of the world is home? Family? etc?

I am the Alpha Nerd at my company.. That means I get to play with computers all day long. I am a pig in mud. Not in the literal sense. Just a bit of Southern humor. I am a father and husband.

2) How did you discover Doc Savage?

I was panning for gold in my closet. I had not cleaned it out since 1964 and I wanted to see what I could find. A golden glow led me to a Bantam copy of The Phantom City. I sat down to read and I've never looked back.

3) What drew you to continue reading the novels?

God knows what weird habits a 15-year-old boy will develop.

4) What other kinds of fiction were you reading at the time?

Samuel R. Delany, Harlen Ellison, Kurt Vonnegut, and Raymond Chandler. I know this because I kept very detailed lists of what I read for a few years. I told you I was strange.

5) Do you still read the novels? How often? Have you read them all?

Yep. Well, not very often and Are you serious?

6) What else do you read now?

The Internet. And I try to pick up books at random among the stacks in the library.

7) Did reading Doc Savage novels lead you to other pulp characters (or vice-versa)?

Doc led to a short look at the Avenger.

8) What do you think attracts people to Doc Savage?

The lack of a coherent mythology in the American society.

9) What novelist would have written a great Doc Savage novel?

Raymond Chandler. No doubt about it.

10) What does a 30s/40s pulp semi-super hero have to say to a generation raised with government distrust, global unrest and general malaise? (or is this a diatribe masqurading as a question?)

Yes it is. And Doc is dead as a character in any form as long as his copyright is controlled by the -insert sarcastic tone here- wonderful folks back East.

11) What madness brought you to the role as a Doc Savage website designer?

Sheer greed. After all, I make millions off my nude pictures of Princess Monja.

12) Who is your audience?

The small select few who developed a fetish for gold flaked eyes while still in their impressionable years.

13) What do you hope to accomplish with your website?

What do want people to take away after visiting your website?

I hope to accomplish absolutely noting. I put the HTC up cause I wanted to see all of the "gold flaked eyes" fetish people get together and get out of the dark corners of the bookstores.

14) Do you visit the other Doc Savage websites? Ever get a chance to talk to the other website designers?

I travel many miles each year to learn at the feet of Chris Kalb. Not to mention simply the chance to see the feet of Catherine.

15) What's next for your website?

Soon to come....The Clark Savage Combo, Doc Savage's Sister! and the oft-quoted, barely seen Bleeding Sun pulp.

16) Have you or will you attend Pulpcon? If you've been...what did you like best? What would you like to see?

Oh, yes. Like best? Well, the cheap copies of the pulps is hard to beat. What would I like to see? Hmmm.... the moon's horizon through a faceplate, but I doubt that'll will happen in '99.

17) What would like to see next for Doc Savage?

I'd like to see the poor guy finally move out of that trailer park in Tampa.

18) What's next for you "in real life"?

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19) If you were casting the movie today...?

I would convince Jody Foster to play Ham.

20) If "The Adventures of Doc Savage" was a syndicated TV series...what cast member(s) would you drop to save costs?

The Empire State building. I'd move them to the Chrysler Building.

Catherine Lavallée-Welch
Website designer for
L'homme de Bronze

1) Tell us about your life off the web...what sort of work do you do? what part of the world is home? Family? etc?

I live in Québec, Canada. My "title" changes with what I do at the moment(and all for the same employer!): information specialist, librarian, records manager, information broker, intelligence gatherer, webmaster, etc. I work alot with computers and the Internet.

2) How did you discover Doc Savage?

I first read Doc Savage in French. I followed in that way my big sister's footsteps. I was 11 the first time I picked up a Doc but I put right back on the library shelf because of the back cover (I have to explain now that the front cover of Bantam's The Man of Bronze was on the back covers of the French books). I found that guy a little too freaky to my taste. But I cameto my senses a few months later and got hooked. I would actually practise mytyping with excepts of the books.

3) What drew you to continue reading the novels?

The characters. The thrills and the zany devices and plots used by the villains to conquer the world.

4) What other kinds of fiction were you reading at the time?

I was reading the Bob Morane series. It was another boys series published by the same publisher to Doc Savage in French. Plus all bunch of stuff: surely some Agatha Christie's, Arthur Conan Doyle, Jean Ray, …

5) Do you still read the novels? How often? Have you read them all?

I try to have one "currently in reading" all the time, but I don't have much time to read for my recreation. I'm reading in pulp order now (after picking stories here and there); I haven't read them all yet.

6) What else do you read now?

In general, I read whatever I find. Some favorites, back then and now: Amin Maalouf, Toni Morrisson, Stephan Zweig, Romain Gary, Michel Tremblay, Réjean Ducharme, Italo Calvino, John Irving, John Steinbeck, Jules Renard, etc etc.

7) Did reading Doc Savage novels lead you to other pulp characters (or vice-versa)?

No, Doc fans lead me to other pulp characters!! I was lured into reading the Spider. As I always like a good detective novels, maybe some day I'll start in on the hardboiled stuff. Hey, I'm still young, I've got time!

8) What do you think attracts people to Doc Savage?

Isn't the first paragraph of a pulp novel supposed to do that? (s). I think people like the same thing that kept going to Doc: characters and plots.

9) What novelist would have written a great Doc Savage novel?

Let me take the easy way out and suggest Henri Vernes, the author of the Bob Morane series. He sure knows how to write an adventure story. But I think he would have trouble with Doc being wary of women. His own hero is quite a ladies' man!

10) What does a 30s/40s pulp semi-super hero have to say to a generation raised with government distrust, global unrest and general malaise? (or is this a diatribe masqurading as a question?)

Dedication, self-giving and responsibility? On a more litterary level, that it is not necessary to have "blood and guts" all over the place to make a good plot?

11) What madness brought you to the role as a Doc Savage website designer?

I wanted to try other stuff in HTML. Doc seemed a good subject to do it. My first Doc project actually was one of the adventure maps.

12) Who is your audience?

The prime audience is the french-speaking fans who might be intrigued to know, like I was for a long time, how much faithful the French translations were to the original text.

13) What do you hope to accomplish with your website? What do want people to take away after visiting your website?

For the French-speaking fans, I hope that it will maybe make them want to read the stories in the original text. Or at least, bring back good memories for them. For the English-speaking fans, that it will show them something new about Doc that maybe they didn't know existed, or had no access to. Even if they cannot read French, they can learn a little something anyway via my experience.

14) Do you visit the other Doc Savage websites? Ever get a chance to talk to the other website designers?

I went around the Web Ring and more. I've talked with a lot of fans and other designers by e-mail and was lucky enough to meet some of them in person at some pulp show or another.

15) What's next for your website?

At Pulpcon 27, several french-challenged fans asked me to translate in English the French translations so that they could see the changes made. Now, they don't realize that if I do that for the French translations, I have to do that, in French, for the original text in the French portion of my site. Now, is that comprehensible? Just trying to explain this is enough to give me an headache, imagine the actual work!
I think I'll do another adventure map first.

16) Have you or will you attend Pulpcon? If you've been...what did you like best? What would you like to see?

Yes! I attended, as mentioned above, Pulpcon 27. I had a great time. What I liked best was the fact that everybody enjoys the same thing you do: pulps! And nobody looks at you in a funny way and you don't have to explain yourself or keep in the closet. It actually took me awhile to get used to proudly announce: "I'm a Doc fan".

17) What would like to see next for Doc Savage?

New novels, and maybe a new movie!

18) What's next for you "in real life"?

I intend to keep on with the work I'm doing now, but always trying to know something more about managing textual info and databases.

19) If you were casting the movie today...?

I would have suggestions for the "supporting cast" but I still haven't found "my" Doc. I don't think it should be a over-muscular actor, good presence is mandatory.

20) If "The Adventures of Doc Savage" was a syndicated TV series...what cast member(s) would you drop to save costs?

I think the obvious answer would be Long Tom and Johnny but I don't want that since LT is my favorite aide. Keep them all around, some more prominent, some more discrete or absent, in turns, as episodes go by. I would definitely go for a 30's feel.

HTC Board of Directors



Welcome the return of the Hidalgo Trading Company Board of Directors. Doc Savage fans have a few common stories..the chance encounter, the cover of that first book... In any case, you'd be amazed just how much The Phantom City is responsible for bring fans into the world of Doc Savage. Some of these stories are from the early days of the HTC...and we'll be adding new ones in the coming weeks.

You can join the Hidalgo Trading Company Board of Directors by writing us at info@docsavage.info. Just tell us how you discovered Doc. Or just leave a comment at the bottom of this page!

Jeff Deischer
11 Sep 02
In 1970, I was nine years old. I was just beginning to collect comic books, which would become a serious, lifelong thing for me beginning the very next year. I had a Captain America coloring book that made a big impression on me; he remains my favorite superhero. One day, while waiting with my mother for her order at a little, local shoe repair/used book store near my home in Casper, WY, I spotted The Red Skull. I didn't know who Doc Savage was, but I knew the Red Skull as Captain America's nemesis. I had no idea who the figure on the cover of the book was, but was awestruck by the ultra-realistic Bama painting (I actually believed it was a photograph; give me a break-I was only nine years old). I was not disappointed by the read, either. The multitude of gadgets; the good-natured and witty ribbing between Monk and Ham; Doc's amazing foresight; the curiously melodious yet harsh names (Buttons Zortell, Lea Aster, Nate Raff, et al.). And that was the beginning of a serious, lifelong thing for me.
Gerald Cooper
14 Nov 99
My first Doc was The Golden Peril,in 1970. Like most of us I was instantly hooked. I read every doc I could find. Then I discovered Farmer. Doc became very real for me, he has been a major influence in my life, and now in my 6 kids lives. They got the jump on me, Doc has been in their lives since they were born. For a while I even put Christmas presents under the tree for them addressed from Doc Savage, an old 'friend'. They are surrounded by Doc every day.
On car trips I make them listen to the code recitied by Ely, they groan, but I think they hear some of what Doc and I are saying. For 25+ years I thought I was alone,finding Doc on the internet was a great moment for me. There is so much to say about Doc and the code in my life but I will close with a thank you to Mr. Dent, Mr. Farmer, HTC, and all the fans. Long Live Doc Savage!
Courtney lists Red Snow as his favorite story and the Roar Devil as his least favorite.
Courtney Rogers
14 Nov 99
Saw Doc Savage books in a local Korvettes store in Elmhurst, Illinois. Asked for some for Christmas, and got 4 from my sister for Christmas 1974. Never looked back and have been a continous Savageologist for 25 years now! Have a complete set of paperbacks, and am proud to be one of the Arizona Fans of Bronze. Don't forget to check out the Doc Savage convention in Arizona in November 2000!
Courtney lists Golden Peril as his favorite Bantam cover and The Spotten Men as the worst cover.
Willis Couvillier
14 Nov 99
Was started are 10-11 by my mom, who gave me 3 novels, The Sargasso Ogre, The Secret in the Sky, and The Spook Legion. To this day, one of my favorite tales is The Sargasso Ogre. Nearly have the pb set, wish Bantam would publish more of Will Murray's Doc, and hope for a Doc movie that could live up to his greatness. (Editor's Note: Willis, I fixed the length of the fields on the Board page. Thanks for the input!)
Bill Colby-Newton is another 28 year Doc veteran and almost has a complete collection. He "found a copy lying on an end table at a neighbor's house. Stared reading and the rest is history!" He has "too many favorites to pick just one." He believes any of Bama's covers are his favorite. The "modern covers by whomever" gets the quick vote for worst covers.
Richard Dowdell is celebrating his silver anniversary with Doc. The Polar Treasure is his favorite story and The King Maker his favorite cover. The Red Terrors is his choice for worst cover and The Yellow Cloud gets his vote for worst story. Richard adds, "I am about 40 short of the Bantam Editions. I have several comics and one Whitman Hardcover. I had several more and got rid of them when I was a teenager. I am paying for it now."
Roger C. Blush started late as Doc fans go...18. Now in his 24th year as a Doc fan he finds Death in Silver his favorite cover. The worst cover? "Any cover done by that jerk after Bama left" (Editor's note: You have lots of company there Roger.)
Arthur Sippo MD, MPH started reading Doc novels 32 years ago at 12. The Man of Bronze is his favorite story and cover. The Roar Devil gets the worst story nod, and The South Pole Terror as worst cover. Dr. Sippo adds, "Doc Savage was an inspiration to me in both my personal and professional life. Like many others whom I have met on line, I owe a debt of gratitude to Lester Dent for the character he created."
Mark Trail is another 2nd generation Doc fan. He found his first novel, The Squeaking Goblin, on his Dad's library shelf. That novel is still his favorite story. He also believes the Red Terrors was the worst novel. For covers he has both pulp and Bantam choices: Favorite: Pulp - The Green Death and Bantam - The Sargasso Ogre. The worst covers are: Pulp - The Man Who Fell Up and Bantam - The Land of Terror.
Kevin Koehler My first "Doc Savage" was "The Polar Treasure" I bought It because I loved the cover. Just as I had started reading Tarzan basically because the of the attractive cover art. About the Bantam repeats I liked all of their reprint covers- Just that some were reprints or only small images- the half covers on the doubles. I since have collected all the reprints and have all but finished reading one of the doubles. I will have to reread them to have an opinion as to what is my favorite and as to what is worst in my opinion. Though I have enjoyed them all. updated: July 23, 2003
Firdaus Juven found us on an Internet search engine. At 29, he just hasn't picked a favorite novel.
Raymond Tom is not called "Long" as far as we know, but he has been reading Doc novels for 28 years. He has only favorites: The Mystic Mullah is his favorite cover, but Fortress of Solitude gets favorite story.
Scott Slone has been reading Doc Savage novels for 20 years.
Rob Smalley A friend introduced Rob to Doc when he was 12. Now 26 years later he is just 6 short of a complete set. He says its "impossible to pick just one" favorite story, but if you press him, he'll offer "Dust of Death." His favorite cover is "again tough to choose" but he'll say Quest of Qui anyway. He has no problems with naming a worst story, The Lost Giant. And there is "no doubt about" The Land of Fear as the worst cover. Rob remembers his first novel, "I was introduced to Doc Savage in Early 1971 by a friend from school. I was in the 7th grade. This kid was absolutely high on Doc Savage. His enthusiasm was contagious and I just had to have some. After seeing his collection, I began to prowl the bookstores. The first newly released book I can remember seeing in the stores was The Munitions Master (March 1971). The stores were full of Docs, as many as 8 or 10 different titles on the shelves at the same time. I immediately bought The Munitions Master, The Golden Peril, The Giggling Ghosts and Poison Island. The whole thing just made my pulse race. I loved Bama's covers and I loved the stories. I was hooked, and I have been for life. It's 26 years later and just a few weeks ago I hit the "jackpot" when I found 26 Docs in a used bookstore. You know I still got the same rush of excitement at finding those Docs that I did when I was 12."
Dr. Jerry M. Allen The good doctor started read his first Doc 26 years ago at 10. He's consistent his favorite story and cover is The Man of Bronze. The worst story and cover? Brand of the Werewolf.
Anthony Aranjo One of the brothers who have set out to ink Arch Enemy of Evil, Anthony has been reading the novels since he was 12. After 27 years, his favorite story is The Annihilist. You can add another vote for Land of Long JuJu as worst story. His favorite cover was the pulp version of The Secret in the Sky and his worst cover vote goes to The Spook Legion.
Gordon Dymowski He started Docs 21 years ago at 7. He found the giant sized Marvel comic on his own and that led to the novels. His favorite story is the Fortress of Solitude and he hasn't found his worst story yet. His favorite cover is White Eyes and Red Snow is the worst cover he's found. Now we'll present Gordon's comments verbatim -- "This is one of the coolest Doc pages I have ever discovered -- I'll probably write more about my first time reading Doc. However, this (and other Doc pages) really justify the Internet's existence. Good job, and keep it up! Gordon" (Editor's Note: Thanks Gordon! Flattery gets you everywhere. It's a good time to remind everyone that the HTC IS its readers. Those who drop by and add their comments. The fans who send us their articles and their art. Those are the people who deserve credit for the good work here.)
Thomas W. Gehris At 34, Thomas has read the novels for 21 years. His parents bought him his first novel. Ask him to name his favorite story and he'll tell you, "impossible to tell i've throughly enjoyed all of the stories." Move down to the worst story question and you'll get "see above" comment. He can name a favorite cover, The Spook Legion, and a worst cover, The Evil Gnome.
James Michael Stuckey It seems many Doc fans are in their 21st year of reading the novels. James found his first novel in the store at age 11 and 21 years later his favorite story is still that first novel, The Polar Treasure. He'll tell Flight into Fear is his least favorite novel. The Sea Angel gets best cover and he calls his worst cover nominee, The Evil Gnome, a "cheap reprint." He does have a suggestion for Doc fans everywhere, "If they ever print any new Docs, I think that everyone who can afford it should buy at least 2, possibly 3, copies of each book. I used to get one to read, one to keep, and one to give to someone else to try. The more they sell, the better chance the legend will go on."
Andrew Aird Started at 6 and now in his 23rd year as a fan Andrew can't remember the worst story and counts most of the earliest as his favorites.
Catherine Welch
Scott Saunders He'll tell you the pulp version of Secret in the Sky is his favorite cover and the paperback cover of Brand of the Werework is his least favorite. Ask him to name his favorite story and he'll tell you, "I haven't read enough to pick." Ask for worst story and get "ditto." Gordon found Doc out due to illness, "I was sick one Sunday so I got to stay home that Sunday instead of going to church. The joke is that I used to be Baptist until I over slept one Sunday. Any way, George Pal's Doc Savage was on, and I loved it. I was eight -- I didn't know any better. I have my own web page with links to Doc Savage and other pulp links. Since I don't have that much, except for a few omnibus and and the 1970's Bantam reprints I'm always on the lookout for people who want to buy, sell or trade.
Thomas A Dyer His parents gave him his first Doc at 11. Now, 29 years later, Thomas says his favorite story is Death in Silver. The best cover was Fortress of Solitude and the worst story was Jade Ogre.
David K. Smith We can thank David's fifth grade english teacher, Mrs. Pane, for introducing him to the Doc novels. He can't decide which is his favorite story, Fear Cay or The Derrick Devil. He knows Bantam's The Feathered Octopus is his favorite cover. After 23 years he still remembers his introduction to Doc novels and fandom, "After burning through the seven or eight books that my english teacher had given me to read back in 73, I decided to do a Doc Savage project for special credit. I designed a movie poster for an adaption of The Freckled Shark. As a further fueling of my obsession, Mrs. Pane suggested that I write to Kenneth Robeson. After waiting approximately eight weeks, I received from Conde Nast a nice form letter informing me that Mr. Robeson was in fact Mr. Dent , and that he in fact he was Deceased. This kind of shook me up but a week later I received a nice postcard from Mr. Dent's widow thanking me for my interest in her husbands work and hoping I continue reading the books. Well I still have both letters, and a healthy obsession to this day."
Bruce Appelbaum has been reading Doc Savage novels since he was 10. That's 33 years of fan appreciation!
David Taggart His favorite story is Dust of Death and he'll give another vote for The Thousand-Headed Man as the worst story. Dave thinks the worst cover was Brand of the Werewolf. Who ever forgets their first? Well, Dave didn't. He picked Terror in the Navy as his favor cover and his first novel was...we'll let him tell you, "Terror in the Navy was the first paperback I read -- after that I was spending my allowance to buy two every two weeks. Brand of the Werewolf was the one that really hooked me -- probably it was the Pat-angle that did it (blush!). What hurts is how many DOC paperbacks I've thrown away over the years. Somehow they never survived the moves. I'd love to pick up an original pulp, but the prices are just so high. Never was much on the comic books. Love the name of the Web page -- for years i have filled out various nosy forms listing myself as a se lf-employed salvage consultant with the Hidalgo Trading Company, and I often get junk mail addressed as such. (Editor's Note: That's where our mail is going!)
CG Welch"I found my first Doc Savage novel in my closet. I have no idea how The Phantom City made it into there. Of course, you could have lost Jimmy Hoffa in my closet when I was a kid. In any case, I devoured that book in a day. (Days were longer then.) It was May of 1975. I had just turned 15. I was the perfect age to come under the spell of a hero. It took many years of haunting book stores, yard sales, and one, I swear to God, date to complete my collection. Then they just sat there wrapped in plastic. Until I discovered the web...and Doc Savage fans everywhere! Now, I've pulled my novels out again. And I just bought a few copies for reading purposes. I wonder what time the used bookstore opens Saturday?"
gig and cribby drain Every now and then we get a letter at the HTC that just cracks us up. This week it was the Drains: "We're really big fans, and we have some of the bantam novels, and some of the comics from marvel and dark horse. We live for Doc! We even have haircuts like Doc, but mine is more like Monk's in the movie. We try to get real Savage tans in the summer, and sometimes we do isometric exercises to be more like Doc. The only problem is we are forced to live in the basement of the science building with the lab rats and other test subjects. One day we will excape using the knowledge we have gleaned from the novels, and we will rescue our brother test subjects. and we will live in the Fortress of Solitude during the summer, and on the 86th floor during the winter. Keep up the good work of Doc..." The Drain's add that their favorite story is The Thousand-Headed Man and the World's Fair Goblin has to be the worst. The Polar Treasure gets worst cover with The Red Terrors their choice for best cover.
Darryl Alan Elliott Another 21st year Savage fan Darryl, 36, was introduced to Doc Savage by a friend. (Now, that's a good friend.) He lists The Phantom City as his favorite novel, The Yellow Cloud as his least favorite. The Annihilist gets favorite Bantam cover nod and Spook Hole gets least favorite cover. Darryl remembers his first novel, "When I was that magic age of 15, a friend carried me to a local flea market, where I found in rapid sucession BANTAM # 10 (The Phantom City), the Marvel Comic of The Monsters (pt.1), and the Marvel B&W of "Ghost Pirates from the Beyond". From then on, I was hooked!! To this day, even though I've managed to read them all, PHANTOM CITY is still my favorite Doc.
Barry Ottey had an encounter with the novel 30 years ago. I'll let Barry tell you about his 1st Doc...
It was the summer of my thirteenth year, and my family had moved to a small, northwestern Ohio town during the last 5 weeks of school. I was too busy trying to catch up on several of the subjects, to have a lot of time to make friends, and none of the neighboring houses held kids my age. I was looking forward to a really boring summer, when the lady who lived next door, hearing that I enjoyed reading, brought over a box of paperbacks that her son (grown and in the Navy) had discarded. The box was filled with Martian novels by Burroughs, Bond novels by Fleming, and many others, but at the very bottom of the box was a battered copy of Kenneth Robeson's "The Phantom City".
I read it. I was enthralled. I was hooked! I'd finally found a hero that I could believe in. He was powerful, influential, altruistic, incorruptible, and a scientific genius who knew the value of education. (That spoke to the bookworm in me, the four-eyed geek whose test-scores always fouled up the class bell-curve!)
I found a reason to help Mom haunt the flea markets - they were a source of "lost" Doc episodes. Not being granted an allowance for the household chores I performed, I discovered that (in the mid-60's) thirty four Coke or Pepsi bottles, collected as I rode my bicycle along the roads near the edges of the town, could be easily rinsed and converted into the price of the newest Doc Savage novel, once a month! (Believe it or not, we didn't always 'recycle' glass soda bottles. We sold 'em back to the bottling company at 2 cents, later 10 cents, apiece!)
I've grown up and, like many others, added the adventures of James Bond, Jack Ryan, and Dirk Pitt, to my collection. But I regularly visit the section of my personal 'library' that contains my Doc Savage collection, reading the novels over again at least once every eighteen months. They take me back to a simpler time, when good and evil were yards apart, not two sides of the same coin. When the world was still full of unexplored places to have fantastic adventures in. When authors knew that there usually wasn't time for a roll in the hay in the middle of a perilous adventure. When a man could take a stand against evil and, aided by a few undyingly loyal friends, come out victorious. Heroes have come and gone since Kenneth Robeson penned the last of his Doc Savage novels. But, among them all, the Man of Bronze still stands head-and-shoulders above the rest.
Jonathan Brock was 10 when he read his first Doc Savage novel, "My dad had them on his bookshelf, and I got bored one day and decided to read one."
Erika Frensley was 16 when she read her first Doc Savage novel. Her favorite is Cargo Unknown.
Ron Hill was 13. "When I was in the seventh grade, I was on an overnight field trip to Dearborn, Michigan. We were allowed a 30 minute stop in a mall for lunch. I had been reading James Blish adaptations of Star Trek, so I headed for the nearest book store. And it was there I first saw the Man of Bronze on a bookshelf in B. Dalton's. I think it was the Derrick Devil cover, and there were a few of those others in that range that had those real stylized, metallic textured covers. I was entranced by the colors and the exciting logo; the way they all caught the eye with those monochromatic color themes. But I wasn't entranced enough - I bought the latest Blish adaptation, Star Trek #9. This was in mid-May, and a few weeks later I ordered a new Star Trek via the mail with one of those forms in the back of the book. Along with that book was a catalog. While leafing through the catalog I was suddenly mesmerized by the Doc Savage logo, with that black and white Bama art of Doc and the Five from the back of the books. Suddenly tingling (I almost said trilling) I gave my mom $3.00 that she converted to a check and mailed that with an order for the first four books. A few weeks later they came, and needless to say I was hooked. Four days later (the time it took me to travel to Hidalgo, Indochina, Tibet, and the North Pole with Doc) Mom had to help me order another 4, and I re-read Man of Bronze and Polar Treasure again while waiting the weeks till the next ones came. That summer I found another 20-or-so in a used bookstore at Bowling Green University while visiting Grandma, and for a couple years afterwards she carried a list of the "Docs Needed" in her purse and visited the store regularly for me. It took all the way until October 1982 to find the last one to complete the collection to date, and that was Cold Death. I have to say that no series (and I collect a lot) has ever captured the "sense of wonder" and excitement that Doc Savage has, nor the thrill of the hunt." (Editor's Note: And I thought I was the only one who equipped my family with "Docs Needed" forms!)
"Professor Ling" started a scant 10 years ago at 18, "THE FLAMING FALCONS! I had seen the DS paperbacks at bookstores for most of my youth, but never bought one. Then, I was at the University of Florida one afternoon in the student union when there was a Lost and Found Auction. I picked out a bundle of books, including one Doc Savage. I can still remeber sitting down to read it. It was weird. It was wonderful. Never looked back."
Bill Mann has been reading Doc Savage novels for over 30 years. His favorite novel is Ost.
Bob JensonBob has been reading Doc's for 25 years since discovering them at age 11. His favorite story is Fortress of Solitude (not suprising considering his wonderful background painting). He'll tell you The Flaming Falcons is the worst story he's read. Quest of Qui is his favorite cover, but don't ask him about any of the latter pulp covers. Now, his story in his own words,

"I first saw Doc advertised in the Marvel comics wondering why this guy in the stupid blue vest was running with a smile on his face. I would NEVER read that book I knew. Not too long after I spotted a book in the grocery store (Food Basket, now called Lucky) with the Doc logo--I'm sure that is what caught my eye --and there was the guy with the funny hair but not the stupid vest. For some reason I thought a REAL book about a super hero was the coolest thing.

"I flipped it over and the ultra-real Doc seemed to be looking right into me, and after reading Bantam's famous description I knew I had to have it and begged my mom to buy it for me.

"The book was SPOOK HOLE and after re-reading it over 20 years later I found it not to be the best of the stories by far but after I had finished it as a kid I was hooked. Maybe it's because I was proud of myself for figuring out a few of the plot devices ahead of time or just Dent's pure style that grabbed me. I'm just glad my mom caved and that day I became a Doc fan."
David Owenshas has two favorite novels, The Thousand-Headed Man and, at age 13, his first Doc novel, The Mystic Mullah. "I saw a copy of "The Mystic Mullah" on a rack in a 7/11 store. That dang cover ***hypnotized*** me, and I just had to have it. I got it home, read it in one sitting, and immediately mail-ordered all the other titles that were then available. I had never even heard of pulp fiction before. The idea of the pulp magazines, once my father had explained it to me, was utterly fascinating. I actually felt deprived and put upon because I was born to late for the original pulps! Fortunately, though, I was just the right age for the Pulp Revival of the '60's (spearheaded by Doc, of course). A lot of pulp fiction was being reprinted in those years, and I read not only the Bantam reprints of Doc Savage, but the Pyramid reprints of the Shadow, and the Corinth/Regency reprints of the Phantom Detective, Operator 5, Dr. Death, and Secret Agent X. This was in addition to the Ba of Edgar Rice Burroughs' Mars novels, the Ace reprints of his other SF novels, as well as the Lancer reprints of Conan. I had a helluva collection -- then one day I got strapped for cash and sold 'em all to a used book store. The foolishness of youth! But Doc was the first, and the most fondly remembered. Long live Doc Savage!
Mike Proto's favorite story is The Man of Bronze, but he has a Phantom City connection, "Great cover art. I remember that the book store had around 5 different titles on the shelf and I couldn't make up my mind which to buy (only had $1). Decided to get the Phantom City. Now I have a framed Graphitti Poster of that same Bama cover in my work office."
Don Reynolds At 29, on has been reading Doc Savage for 21 years. His favorite novel is The Red Spider. His favorite cover is Quest of Qui and considers The Red Terrors the worst cover. He adds though, "I do not yet own the complete set (only 60) so you have to take my best and worst with a grain of salt."
Arthur C. Sippo MD, MPH, LFIBA makes another vote for The Man of Bronze as best novel. He adds that The Green Death is the worst novel. The Man of Bronze gets the nod for best cover, but The South Pole Terror gets worst cover.
Duane Spurlock has too many favorite stories to choose just one. (He names The Man Who Shook the Earth as the worst novel though.)

He can look back 25 years for his first Doc novel, "I remember the first Doc I bought. I was in one of the local dime stores--Kuhn's, which always kept a wire-rack of westerns, mysteries, and romances by the stair leading down to the toy and pets section--when all those colorful Doc Savage covers caught my eye. I looked 'em over and read the blurbs. I ended up buying the one with the most intersting cover: #61, The Living Fire Menace. Nowadays, I can't say that it's the best or my favorite Doc adventure, but it made a big enough impression that I searched out more Docs and read each one as I found it. And the cover to #61 remains one of my favorite covers!"
Chris Twedt is a recent convert to Doc Savage. After two years she can name her favorite, Fear Cay, and least favorite, Flight in Fear. Her first is easy to remember, "My first novel that I started reading was The Man of Bronze... it was a rainy day and I was at my boyfriend's apartment, looking for something to read. He has about a dozen of the paperbacks, and suggested I start at the beginning. I didn't really care for Doc back then, back in his killing days. I don't think I ever finished Man of Bronze, though I do own a copy of it. Ditto for Land of Terror. The first Doc I finished - and the one that got me addicted - was Land of Always-Night, which I simply devoured. My next novel was Fear Cay, which not only solidified me as a Doc Savage fan, but also made Johnny my favorite assistant. Is it any wonder that The Forgotten Realm is my favorite new Doc? :) I've nearly completed my Bantam collection (T-minus one single, one double, and three Omni's), thanks in a LARGE part to the crew on alt.fan.doc-savage! The discussions and insights on the board, the variety of Web pages devoted to Doc and the crew, and the advantage of having Will Murray right there on the newsgroup are fabulous, and I hope that we can soon convince Bantam to let Will write again... and convince Hollywood that there's a market for a new, non-camp Doc movie. After watching the 1996 Emmys, I'm sold on the idea of David Hyde-Pierce (from Frasier) as Long Tom!
Larry Widen took the knowledge gained in his 25 plus years as a Doc Savage fan to write Arch Enemy of Evil, his guide to the Doc Savage novels. He'll tell you his favorite novel is The Man of Bronze, but wouldn't all any of the novels "bad." He can recall his first novel, "Land of Terror. I bought it at B. Dalton bookstore in my local mall because I liked the cover. If you guys check out the foreword in my book, "Doc Savage, Arch Enemy of Evil," I think I did a pretty fair job of telling what Doc means to me and why I was motivated to put that book together after all these years.
David BrownStarted collecting Doc novels 16 years ago at 14. He has too many favorite and least favorite stories to list. The Bantam "Man of Bronze" movie edition cover is his favorite and he casts another vote for The Monsters as his least favorite cover. He's still working on his collection, "Almost complete set of Bantams, still trying to find those last few. I'm trying my best to locate them personally, but I'm down to about seven or so and pickings are slim. I have one or two of the Golden press hardbacks."
Paul McCall started read Doc Savage 33 years ago at age nine. He said there are too many good stories to choose a favorite, but any Pfeiffer or Boris cover gets his nod for worst cover. His favorite Bama cover is Death in Silver and his favorite pulp cover is The King Maker.
Terry Klasek has spent the last 33 years reading Doc Savage. He started at age 17 and will tell you that The Freckled Shark is his favorite story. Terry has another Doc Savage connection: "I was the first fan to visit Norma Dent in 1975. I got her to come to a mini-con I held in St. Louis in Summer 1976. This was her first exposure to Doc Fans. We talked often about Lester Dent and Doc. She was a great person, and gave freely. I will miss her. We visited Lester's grave. I have been a Doc fan for a long time and would like to talk with other fans."
Andrew K. Henry35, picked up his first Doc Savage 22 years ago at the town library while visiting his grandparents. His favorite story is The Sargasso Ogre and he counts The Crimson Serpent as his least favorite. For covers he likes Escape from Loki and can't abide by The Stone Man. (Editor's Note: Now he has a better choice for The Stone Man with Ron Hill's version.) Andrew picks up his story: (I have) no complete sets of anything. I had several of the large Marvel Doc comics which I loaned to one of my cousins. His parents got divorced and they disappeared (I suspect his mother, who never liked us reading Doc Savage.) I'm still kicking myself for letting those get away from me. I am currently trying to buy up copies of the Docs I don't have in my collection.
Clay Dixon36, has been reading Docs for 23 years. Clay must have a connection to Vancouver because his favorite novel is "Murder Melody, because it takes place in Vancouver." He then relates that he feels the worst story is "Murder Melody. Despite Vancouver being its locale, the plot bites in a major way." Clay also finds Death in Silver to be the best cover, but dislikes anything after Bama.
Carl William Thiel also counts The Sargasso Ogre as his favorite story. Carl, 41, has been reading Docs for 27 years. He called Land of Always-Night the worst story, but his collection isn't complete. "Like many fans I do not have all the omnibuses. Apparently they are hard to come by. Seemingly everybody wants or needs them."
Preston Wood35, started reading Doc at age 13. His favorite story is The Lost Oasis. He says the worst covers are "just about all the Bantam Omnibus covers." His favorite cover is Boris Valejo's The Roar Devil. (Editor's Note: I think that's the only Boris vote so far.)
Bob Oprondekstarted reading Docs 21 years ago at age 14. He gives another vote for The Sargasso Ogre as his favorite story. The Melody Makers gets the nod as worst story. The Man of Bronze gets his vote as best Bantam cover.
Dominick Cericola28, sent us his story through email. "I don't recall exactly how I came upon Doc & his Amazing Five. All I can remember is it was sometime around the 5th or 6th Grade ('79-'80).. Not sure of the title -- was either The Monsters or The Thousand-Headed Man. I do remember that it took my breath away, and, most importantly, that my Life would never be the same ever again..! Doc & the Five have had a remarkable influence on my Life, and I believe their Adventures will follow me even into the Great Beyond..!
I bought my last Doc novel, The Jade Ogre, at K-Mart. I haven't bought anymore in awhile, due to lack of funds at the time they came out. But, I am trying to get back into the new ones, tough to find, tho'.. My favorite novel is a tie -- The Majii & The Red Spider (*Note: I haven't had the luck of reading all of the supersagas, tho' I am getting close.)
Dominick's least favorite novel is The Monsters. His favorite cover is the Bantam reprint of Resurrection Day and his least favorite cover is the Bantam reprint of The Land of Always-Night.
Toreen L. Augustine Salberg Four years ago she married into the Doc Savage family and adopted the children, "The first Doc book I ever read was "The Man of Bronze" My fiancee, Martin, decided that if I was going to marry him, I should have some idea who the major influences in his life were. As I was already familiar with Superman and Captain America, he handed me the Doc Savage book. My mother-in-law promised me I'd love it and she was right. I saw a lot of my husband-to-be in this strange bronze figure. The more I read, the more I knew where certain attitudes, habits, and goals had come from. Believe it or not, this knowledge has actually made the transition from living alone to being married much easier. I have a better insight into his personality than I would have had otherwise. Not to mention, I LOVE the stories!"
John Gerard Bodner At 14, 26 short years ago he discovered Doc Savage at school, "Two guys a grade ahead of me in high school were reading and discussing Doc paperbacks in the library. I was immediately intrigued by the James Bama covers. I quickley ran out and started my lifelong love and hobby of c ollecting Doc Savage and other related pulp material. Thank you very much for keeping and actually adding to the history and excitement that I have alway s associated with Doc Savage adventures."
Bill Mann and Chris Kalb
Cat Jaster At nine, the now famous "Frozencat" read her first Doc Savage novel. We can blame her "unusual" start on youth, "I stole one from my brother's room because I needed something to read. I need one book to complete my pb collection. I have 96 Doc pulps and am looking for the other 85."
Larry G. Gouliard Jr. "likes 'em all" when it comes to Doc Savage novels. He started 25 years ago at age 12, "I remember reading Mad Eyes and Land of Long JuJu as a preteenager (my first two books). Have been hooked ever since. I reread my modest collection (need only 23, 29, 43 and 86 and the doubles) every two years or so. My reading interests are varied from electrical engineering to fiction but for PURE READING ENJOYMENT DOC SAVAGE CANNOT BE EQUALLED. (although I do have to admit that Clancy's Jack Ryan is pretty good) Dent's Doc Savage takes the reader back to a simpler time when evil was black and the hero always wore white. A time when science promised to cure all the world's woes."
Gary Miles While the movie doesn't have a lot of fans, it brought Gary into the Doc world, "I saw (the) commercial for Pal's "Man of Bronze", then saw books. Got 7 books for Christmas from folks."
Cynthia J. Haldeman told the readers of alt.fan.doc-savage about her start into the Doc Savage world, "I've been lurking on this news group for some time. It's been a joy to find people that share one of my oldest loves. I read my first Doc (Terror in the Navy) when I was about 10. My older brother had left it sitting out. After that I was forced to sneak in to his to swipe all he had and then eventually I ended buying them for myself. I'm now pushing 40 and I still love them. What's not to like? Great stories with humor, lots of action and adventure and characters that you can really look up to. I'll admit that I always like the stories that had Pat in them the best. Thiry years ago she was about the only strong female character you could find. I think that one of the best things was that Doc wasn't a super hero that you could never hope to match. He was human - granted, better trained both physically and mentally, but still within reach. Doc was a great role model - never too preachy but with sound moral values that I've found have stuck with me through the years."
Alain Berguerand Now in his 21st year as a Savageologist, Alain is the curator of L'Homme de Bronze a French version Doc Savage web site. He counts Merchants of Disaster as his favorite story, and Flight into Fear as his least favorite. Add a vote for Dagger in the Sky as best Bantam cover and another vote for Land of Terror as worst cover. Now we'll let Alain continue, "I was 4 when first exposed to Doc Savage. We lived in small flat, and my father's library was located in my room. During the afternoons, while I was supposed to be taking a nap, I kept looking at the Doc Savage cover painting (from the french Marabout translation). I was really impressed by Bama's hyperrealistic art. Red Snow really frightened me. I thought Doc was the bad guy of the story. A few years later, having learned to read, I started collecting the french edition and eventually got the whole set (40). For a few bucks, I sold them and forgot Doc for about 15 years. In 1991, I found a few french Docs at a flea market booth and started to collect again. During a trip to London in 1993, I found several used Bantam paperbacks, the last Omnibuses and the first Will Murrays. I learned there were far more Docs in English than the mere 40 that had been translated in french. So I started collecting the Bantam paperbacks and eventually got the whole set in 1995.
Scott Johnsonhas been reading Doc Savage since he was 12. After 23 years he's decided that Fortress of Solitude is his favorite story and Meteor Menace as his least.
Steven FinlayAt 33 Steven makes it three in a row for 21st year Doc fans. He said he started reading Docs after seeing one at the store, "The Green Death cover pulled me in!" But, his favorite novel is Fortress of Solitude and The Yellow Cloud is his favorite Bantam cover. His worst cover vote is for The Brand of the Werewolf. He continues, "In my opinion, the best treatment of Doc in the comics was Dave Stevens' representation of him in the Rocketeer. Second best was the Millenium run, which I have a colored page from. Having bronze colored hair myself, I am a fan of Doc with hair that looks like hair. Bama is great, but he ruined it for all artists following."
Robert Howardwas introduced, at 12, to Doc by a relative. (Blood is thicker than water!) And has been reading them for 20 years. A first vote for Quest of Qui as favorite novel comes from Robert, with least favorite going to The Monsters. The Red Skull gets favorite cover status and Land of Long JuJu comes in as worst cover.
Chris Kalb
Tim Handleyalso started at 12 and now, at 35, still feels the Man of Bronze is the best novel. He cared least for The Lost Giant. His Bantam cover nominations are: The Flaming Falcons for best cover and worst cover is awarded to The Devil Ghengis. Tim has a very sad story to tell, "I lost my complete set of paperbacks and several pulps in a move several years ago. As I recall, however, the pulps were extremely difficult to find and outrageously expensive. Who can afford to have a complete set of them?" (Editor's Note: I think Cat's heading that way...)
Hardyboyhas made a name for himself on alt.fan.docsave. The 46 year old Mr. Boy started reading Doc Savage at 19. His favorite story is Land Of Always Night and another land story gets worst novel, Land of Long Ju Ju. He counts World' s Fair Goblin as the best Bantam cover and Metal Master as Bantam's worst.
David E. Oxfordstarted Doc at the golden age of 12 and has been reading the adventures for 32 years. His has a double favorite in The Man of Bronze (favorite story and cover). The Red Spider gets the nod for worst story and "most of the doubles" are his least favorite covers.
Jerry Suttonis 30 now, but saw his first Doc Savage novel at 16 in the store. He reports that he has "never read one (novel) I didn't like" but his favorite novel is The Red Spider. (He and Davaid Oxford would have a lot to discuss.) Jerry relates his story, "As an avid reader at a young age, I often passed by the book racks at any store I happened to be in. I was facenated by the covers of Doc Savage novels. The massive MAN OF BRONZE standing in his customary pose, fists clenched, glaring at me from the shelf. I finally succumbed and bought a novel. I was hooked from the very first. Someday soon I hope to retrieve my collection (in a closet somewhere at my parents home) and complete it."

July 24, 2005

Bleeding Sun Timeline

First, we had the idea for the shenanigan. Next we had a cover. Then we had the back cover blurb.

8-4-1998 Doc and his courageous crew race to the Far East to combat the Axis plague! Can they solve the mystery of an insidious new weapon certain to turn the tide of the war? What causes the sun to turn red and ships to disappear? Can mere light really turn a man to smoke and ashes? Will Doc and Monk save Ham in time or will he too die under a bleeding sun?


Then, Bill had a story idea.


Email 8-6-98 This is my idea on the story line. Doc and Long Tom are in Norfolk working on a new radar system for the Navy in preparation for the invasion of Japan. The head of Naval intelligence, Admiral J. Ryan, disappears after a strange red cloud appears in the Navy base in Norfolk and causes ships to melt and turns men to ashes. Doc analyzes the remains and discovers a rare element that is only found in the coastal islands of Japan. Doc and Long Tom immediately take off for Japan in hopes of finding Admiral Ryan before he reveals the secret plans for the invasion.

We didn't have a real novel though. Bleeding Sun might have ended then and there. Then another email from Duane.


Email excerpt 8-13-98 Meanwhile, I have a weird idea: If you think it's worth trying, I'd like to take the ideas everyone's thrown out about #127 and actually take a stab at writing the "unpublished novel." (Okay, okay, I've always had a grandiose dream of wanting to be one of the Kenneth Robesons.) You could serialize it on your site as the Chapter of the Week or something like that.


A great idea! Which led to a lot of hard work. Two years of hard work. Using the barest bones of the blurb he began writing Bleeding Sun. I promised to publish each chapter as he finished it. At a chapter per month I figured we'd have the novel finished by Pulpcon 2000. Of course, neither one of us counted on family and careers delaying the project.
I doubt Duane let Bill's idea and my cover blurb dictate his novel. We didn't discuss how he planned to plot the novel and my editorial interference was limited to a couple of suggestions.
Email 10-29-1998 After reading the two adventures that supposedly precede and follow "Bleeding Sun" -- "Trouble on Parade" and "The Screaming Man" -- it's clear that the Doc who appears in 1945 is quite different from the Doc of the early 1930s. Even the language and tone that Dent uses is quite different. So I've tried to combine a little of both the early 1930s and 1945. I hope it works. -- Duane

I know he had planned the tone and timing of the novel pretty early on. There are a few familiar names used as character names and I want to state emphatically that all characters in this novel are fictions and any resemblance to persons living or dead is unintended.
It was wonderful reading each new chapter as Duane mailed them to me. Even more I enjoyed being able to read the complete novel in one weekend last week. I hope you've enjoyed this welcome addition to the Doc Savage cannon as much as I have.

Now if I can just convince Duane to start writing Terror of the Death Devil…

CG Welch
March 2001

The True Story Behind the Bleeding Sun


shenanigan: "a playful or mischievous act; a prank."




At first Bleeding Sun was a shenanigan. In 1998, a few attendees of Pulpcon pretended there was a Doc Savage novel named Bleeding Sun. There wasn't. That was the fun.


Now it really is a novel. A fine work of fiction written by a true Brother of Bronze. No longer can anyone say, "The Bleeding Sun doesn't exist. It's a hoax." No one can claim to own all the Doc Savage novels if they don't have Bleeding Sun.


Then again maybe it wasn't really a shenanigan. Maybe we just pretended to "discover" what already existed. For those who weren't there…and only a few of us were… here is the story….


In the summer of 1998 I attended my second Pulpcon. The year before I had a great time and I was looking for more of the same. This year was to be even better Fate wanted me to meet my (then) future wife, Catherine. Thank you, Fate.


We did all the usual Doc Savage fan activities. We spent hours in the dealer room looking for coverless magazines and pristine Bantam's. We sat and thumbed though a near mint copy of The Man of Bronze. We oohed and ahhed over Jay Ryan's detailed account of the publishing history of Doc Savage. We argued over the relative merits of the various authors. We learned the difference between "e", "e", and "e."


We were Doc fans at "the" convention. All those years of being the only Doc fan in town were forgotten as we had a great time. You won't find a more dedicated group of crazy and inventive people than at Pulpcon.



The event that would reverberate for months in Doc fandom started with a simple comment over Jay's book, "What if Jay had missed something?"


The cartoons are right: light bulbs literally appear over our heads.


Email excerpt 8-23-1998 I know it was in the dealer room where the subject was first mentioned. I know that we had been discussing the rather high price that was put on Doc doubles by some of the dealers. -- Bill

The story developed over the next two days. The principal members of the shenanigan operated the more popular Doc Savage websites. People looked to us for information on Doc Savage.


What if we quietly inserted information about a Doc Savage novel that had been published by Bantam? A novel that never existed, but that would seem to be as real as any of the others.



Primarily over a single dinner we developed our "back story." Our Doc Savage was novel scheduled to run late 1945 but was pulled at the last second. The editors at Street and Smith thought the novel was too wrapped up in the war to be published after VJ Day. So the manuscript was filed away until Bantam discovered it 30 years later. Of course they would publish it! Bantam editors would remember the cash they had reaped over The Red Spider.



We decided to insert the novel as Bantam Number 127. That's when the novels went to Bantam Omnis. Our #127 would be the last numbered Bantam Doc Savage. We all knew that a Bantam 127/128 double had been announced but was pulled in favor of the first omni edition. It would only confuse the issue more.

Next, we had to have a novel synopsis. We attacked the story logically. Since it was to be set at the end of the war it needed to feature the war in the Pacific. The Japanese empire was called the rising sun. We bandied about plays on such words as "sun" "red" "blood" and "setting sun." We thought about the red sun of the Japanese flag, which took us to "Bloody Sun" and finally to Bleeding Sun.



That would be our title: Mystery of the Bleeding Sun. Of course, Bantam would have shortened that to Bleeding Sun.


You may have noticed I haven't identified all of the names of the perps of the shenanigan. I'll leave it up to the dedicated Savageoligist to uncover the posts and interview the participants. Suffice it to say that we numbered at least seven and each had his or her role.


The story and title developed over an otherwise forgettable dinner. During the next day we would identify certain needs to carry out the shenanigan. We needed a blurb. I volunteered to write one. I had just completed an interview with the original Bantam blurb writer, Nick D'Annuzio, and thought I was up to the task.



Chris Kalb not only operated the prime Doc Savage website he was an award-winning artist. (Later someone claimed the art had been put together by some "idiot with photoshop.") He agreed to make up a Doc Savage cover. …using Photoshop. We didn't want to make it too hard to figure out.


Email excerpt 8-4-1998 The cover might be a little too nice considering the cheap crap Bantam put on the fronts of the first omni. BTW, looking at the list there's plenty of time between the doubles (mar 85) and omnis (aug 86). --Chris

We would place that cover and blurb on all of our sites. There would be no special announcement. We wanted it to seem like it had been there all along. Crazy, huh?





I was taking quite a few pictures of the festivities. The previous year I had posted them on the Hidalgo Trading Company along with a record of the event. To sell the story I took a picture of Catherine holding up a novel she had purchased. Chris finished the cover and digitally placed it on Catherine's novel.

Now we had a picture of someone holding Bleeding Sun. It had to exist! We went home and started fixing our sites. Someone noticed the picture of Catherine and asked about Bleeding Sun. I feigned surprise they didn't own a copy.

The story started to unravel when a copy was placed on eBay. I know it sounds like we were pushing our luck, but it seemed to make sense at the time. Only one person bid on the novel and he laughed when he learned of the joke.

One participant tried to enlist someone outside the group to help. In retrospect, that was the beginning of the end. The first rule of any shenanigan is "Don't try to involve anyone who doesn't have a sense of humor."

Accusations, recriminations and many angry Usenet posts later the word was out. We had pulled a fast one. No one was really hurt and the alt.fan.doc-savage newsgroup was more alive than it had been for months.

Only one person seemed angry. Most laughed when they discovered the joke. We had a few emails thanking us for injecting some fun into fandom. I think the following two comments were representative of the majority response to the shenanigan:




Usenet excerpt Aug 13, 1998 As I happen to have been one of the people who actually bid on "Bleeding Sun" and therefore was "taken" by the "hoax", I want to say to one and all, "Relax". I appreciate the laugh and I really appreciate the fact that the only thing I lost was some time placing a bid on Ebay. It was a masterful hoax, and I applaud its originators. If, however, in any real or imagined guilt they may or may not feel, they desire to commit acts of restitution, I will gladly accept, though I do not compel this action, help in getting the last 3 Doc PB's that I need for my collection.
Sincerely, Marcel Allen Lamb




Email 1-16-99 Just wanted you to know I fell for the Bleeding Sun book scam, and loved it! You have to understand I was in a vulnerable state when I saw it, I had just been at J__ G_____ site and found out the hardcover versions of the Bantam pb's exist so I thought anything was possible. Thanks, Mike S_______


I tried to write Marcel recently. I wonder if he finally completed his collection? Maybe he bought those three to reach his Nirvana. I hope someone sends him a copy of Bleeding Sun so he will truly discover "completion peace."





CG Welch


March 2001




September 2, 2005

The Adventures of Doc Savage: A Definitive Chronology

A review of the new chronology written by Jeff Deischer

You can blame Phillip Jose Farmer for the spate of Doc Savage chronologies. Farmer proposed that the Doc Savage adventures were based on real events. He proceeded to list the adventures in chronological order. His list wasn't the last word on the subject. As other's have disagreed with his decision to mark Doc's birthdate there have been other chronologies.

The latest attempt to place the Doc novels in historical order is by a person DocSavage.Info readers recognize -- Jeff Deischer. He wrote the second Doc novel offered by the Hidalgo Trading Company -- The Stone Death. No matter his connection to this site I have to tell you I really enjoyed The Adventures of Doc Savage: A Definitive Chronology. A manuscript prepared by a Doc scholar, well-written, and thought-provoking.

In his introduction Deischer offers the cornerstone to his chronology: the LPO. The Last Possible Occurance of each adventure is "the latest date that the last day of an adventure can occur." Deischer decided that it takes at least 60 days before an magazine cover date to write and prepare a novel for publication.

This time includes the fact that the cover date of an issue is actually more than a week after the magazine appeared on the newsstands. Deischer notes that the issues were on the newsstands the third Friday of each month. Since he didn't want to find the exact date he makes an assumption the newsstand date is always the 15th of the month. I note this since I decided to list the actual release dates on DocSavage.Org and here.

Deischer's second assumption is that the novels occured in manuscript submitted order unless internal evidence disputes that order.

Deischer took the LPO and submitted order then looked at the novels to find weather data, known events, dates, days, and vegatation. With meticulous research and strong logic Deischer presents the Doc novels in "actual order of occurance." Whee Farmer simply listed the order and maybe a word or two about his reasoning Deischer offers paragraphs for each entry. The reader is offered not only clues deciding order but interesting trivia for each entry.

After I finish each novel I plan to read the pertinent entry in Deischer's book. Also, look for the Deischer Number to be added to the Submitted Number, Publication Number, and Bantam Reprint Number for each entry on DocSavage.Org .

You can email Jeff with comments at: ikonoklast61@juno.com

To order the book write:

Green Eagle Publishing
2900 Standiford Ave., 16B PBM 136
Modesto, CA 95350

The Complete Chronology of Bronze

From the introduction to Rick Lai's Complete Chronology of Bronze:

This book is a heavily revised version of an earlier Doc Savage chronology that was published as The Bronze Age: An Alternate Doc Savage Chronology (Fading Shadows, 1992). At that time, the chronology consisted of the 181 novels originally published in the pulps and written by Lester Dent and other writers as well as three original paperback novels, Dent‘s The Red Spider, Philip Jose Farmer‘s Escape From Loki and Will Murray‘s Python Isle.

During 1992-1993, six more novels were written by Will Murray were published. All of Mr. Murray‘s novels incorporated material found in the papers of Lester Dent. This material ranged from outlines to drafts of novels. All of the new novels are included in the second version of this chronology.

The Complete Chronology of Bronze
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(Foreign Orders please add an additional $5 P/H, US funds)

Make checks out to;
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Indianapolis, IN 46241

(This is a scholarly examination of the Doc Savage novels and in no ways infringes upon the copyright of Conned Nast copyright holders of Doc Savage.)

October 6, 2005

Submission Trivia

In a previous column we listed the order Doc Savage novels were submitted to the publisher. We weren't finished. Below we have the five novels that were quickest "submitted to published" in days. We used the submitted date and subtracted it from the first day of the published month. (Yes, we know the novels weren't published on that day, but we needed a consistant date.)

After the Quickest Five we have the Slowest Five. They are the novels that languished the longest on the editor's desk.

Quickest Five

Days
43 The Polar Treasure
68 The Man of Bronze
71 The Land of Terror
85 The Roar Devil
87 Quest of the Spider

Slowest Five

Days
547 Mad Eyes
573 He Could Stop the World
574 The Magic Forest
608 The Rustling Death
688 The Motion Menace

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